214 with veterans ID card clears Senate
Department of Veterans Affairs without burdening taxpayers. The House passed the bill last month with 402 representatives backing it and no votes cast against it. Rep. Vern Buchanan, R Fla., introduced the Veterans ID Card Act earlier this year. Buchanan’s bill would ensure all veterans receive ID cards from the VA instead of just those who served 20 years in the armed forces or are seeking medical treatment for service related wounds.
In pushing his bill in recent months, Buchanan has noted veterans are forced to carry DD 214 paperwork, which contains sensitive information including Social Security numbers, and an ID card would be more convenient and would do a better job of keeping their personal information secure.
“A simple, standardized ID card will make life easier for our veterans and serve as a reminder that our brave service men and women deserve all the respect a grateful nation can offer,” Buchanan said on Tuesday.
Buchanan insisted his bill was budget neutral since veterans who opted for the ID card would have a small fee which the VA secretary would examine every five years. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D Conn., offered anamendment to Buchanan’s bill ensuring all veterans would be elegible for the ID card, sending the billback to the House. Buchanan’s office expects the bill to sail through the House once again and be signed into law by President Barack Obama. Rep. Rep. Corrine Brown, D Fla., the ranking Democrat on the committee. Reps. Reps. Ted Deutch and Alcee Hastings. The bill has also won the backing of veterans groups including AMVETS and Veterans for Common Sense (VCS).
Anthony Hardie, the director of VCS, praised the bill on Tuesday.
“Veterans who have honorably served their country deserve to have a simple, straightforward way to prove their veteran status,” Hardie said. “Veterans for Common Sense supports sensible legislation like Rep. He was sand bagged by the clerks there He finally gave up There was no sympathy , no understanding, just a very COLD atmosphere, which was not Veteran friendly The clerk seemed disinterested in their jobs No bill in Congress is going to change that situation AND it will cost the VA a lot of
to implement any change It is a disappointing situation for veterans who go to VA OPC clinics to get rudimentary care and are NOT serviced The percentage of dissatisfaction can not be tallied because , most veteran are not vocal about their VA benefits or lack of VA benefits BUT , if you hang around a VA OPC , the obvious lack of attention to the job at hand is extraordinarily there in plain sight
I have NOT read all the comments. I have a retired military ID card that has a 10 digit number assigned to it in place of the SSAN. However, wherever I go within the military system they always ask for the SSAN, “Say What”. The article states that between the Senate (Blumenthal) and the House (Buchanan) they keep tossing the stuff back and forth for amendments, etc. It is no wonder that nothing ever gets done in “Congress”, the direct opposite of “Progress” because of all the dilly dallying and changing a word here and a letter there. Despite what someone had said about common sense all I can say is that there is NO COMMON SENSE in either of the Houses of, again, CONGRESS. Remember PRO is for and CON is against.
About time! Scannable Fake IDs I had been carrying copies of my DD 214 in my car glove box along with a copy of my military discharge to use for retail discounts on purchases. I readily found that not all would accept a DD 214 as the person(s) didn understand that it was an official document and wanted to see an actual frame able discharge document which doesn make much sense to me other than being prettier than the DD 214. I attempted to reduce my DD 214 and discharge papers to wallet size and laminate but then the printing was too small and some retailers balked at honoring the discount as they could not read the very small print. I also agree with ray v that as a former service member with an id card you should be able to shop in any px or bx. Do former congressional members benefits continue after they leave office? And, finally let hear it for LOWE who recognize all military veterans past and present for a 10% discount. Some competitors do not consider veterans of past conflicts like WWII, Korea and Vietnam eligible for discounts.
ID Card, for what? The VA is completely political and way under funded. Here is a fact, explain this, I never used my VA medical because I had commercial insurance. I found out I had cancer and more then likely it was service connected so I went to the VA. I had three campaigns during Vietnam with two bronze stars on my DD 214. I am also retired Air Force. I was turned down by the VA because I made to much money. Basicly they thanked me for my service and showed me the door. No one asked me if I had enough money when I was making $78.00 a month, plus $55.00 for combat pay. You can trust the VA if you want to, it is all bull as far as I concerned. By the way my primary care doctor was with the VA and quite because of political bull. They need to fix the Va system before worrying about ID cards.
When I enlisted in the 1967, we were told that if we spent 20 years serving, and retired we could get free medical care for the rest of our life, access to all military bases to us PX and Exchange facilities and receive a portion of our basic pay. Simple contract we serve and receive in return. We gave up control of our lives to the demands of the military at minimum pay. It was a bag of sand, we served and they cut a whole in the bag. By closing military bases our guaranteed access disappeared to use what was promised. Military retired pay upgrades are always tied to something other than a stand along military pay bill and often never gets approved because what it is included in, thus leaving congress with a clear conscience, and let us not forget that when Congress turned all the Exchange facilities from military positions to civilian and required the exchanges to be profit making to pay for these civilian jobs, thus any savings from low prices we were getting disappeared. I for one don not like the idea of a magnetic strip on a card that can be stolen by anyone with the technology to steal my identity. And to have to pay for such a privilege, and that is what they can call it, is morally wrong. That money could easily be found by removing the retirement programs that congress receives, full salary and medical for life after serving only one term, they should be in Social Security, likewise they should be required to travel in coach like we have to do when being transferred or catch a jump seat in a transport plane. Just look at how Nancy Pelosi travels, private military plane, top shelf booze and food and treats the military personnel like crap. The money she spends yearly would more then pay for the id cards, just another source for funding that always escapes the budget axe. If they issue an idea card, I agree they need to return to a unique id number like our old Service Number which I still remember after all these years, the Idea should also include a current photo and have the same protection as driver license are afforded. I try to use the local VA facility but it is extremely lacking in Doctors and services, especially prescription services which I have to call into San Francisco and it takes up to two weeks to receive. If you need something special you have to ride a 7 hour coach ride south and with no radio or TV on board, Scannable Fake IDs they had them but some jackass in San Francisco will not let the drivers use them. Not all of us have access to personal digital entertainment, most of which will not work due to the remoteness of the road. We use to have a private contractor for VA services but the doctors running the facility wanted to retire, we received super service there. So the VA built a new facility with all sorts of promises as to the service that would be offered, most of which never developed. Even now it takes weeks to get an appointment to see someone at the new clinic. One day I was at the new clinic and gave up my follow up appointment for another veteran who was having serious issues, I don know what it was but his wife gave me a hug and was in tears. On that day there was only one nurse practitioner available so I rescheduled which was a month later for the next appointment. This area has a huge number of veterans and retired vets going back to WWI.
DD 214 4 peovides information dor discharge, like I read previously some merit to recieve an ID card due to the nature of discharge. On the other hand some discharges unfortunatey do notqualify because the discharge was dishonorable and are not entitle to recieve benefits. There are various type of discharge;
1. Honorable Discharge means that your performance was good to excellent. Usually retirement personnel or medical by disability are entitle to this type of discharge.
2. Generable discharge means, General discharges are given to service members whose performance is satisfactory but is marked by a considerable departure in duty performance and conduct expected of military members. Reasons for such a characterization of service vary, from medical discharges to misconduct, and are utilized by the unit commander as a means to correct unacceptable behavior prior to initiating discharge action (unless the reason is drug abuse, in which case discharge is mandatory.
A general discharge may preclude a veteran participation in the GI Bill, service on veterans commissions, and other programs for which an honorable discharge is required, but is eligible for VA disability and most other benefits.
3. Other than honorable means An OTH is a form of administrative discharge. This type of discharge represents a departure from the conduct and performance expected of all military members. It can also be given as the result of certain civil hearings. This also means that they are bared for reenlistment. They are eligible for VA and Other Than Honorable recipients are eligible for Montgomery GI Bill benefits if they have completed at least one honorable discharge, but are not excluded from all Post 9/11 GI Bill Benefits.
4. Bad Conduct Discharge, A Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD) can only be given by a court martial (either Special or General) as punishment to an enlisted service member. Bad conduct discharges are often preceded by a period of confinement in a military prison. The discharge itself is not executed until completion of both confinement and the appellate review process.
Virtually all veterans benefits are forfeited by a Bad Conduct Discharge; BCD recipients are not eligible for VA disability compensation in accordance with 38 CFR 3.12.
5. Dishonarable discharge, A dishonorable discharge (DD) can only be handed down to an enlisted member by a general court martial. Dishonorable discharges are handed down for what the military considers the most reprehensible conduct.
With this characterization of service, all veterans benefits are lost, regardless of any past honorable service, and this type of discharge is regarded as shameful in the military. In many states a dishonorable discharge is deemed the equivalent of a felony conviction, with attendant loss of civil rights. Additionally, US federal law prohibits ownership of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged per the Gun Control Act of 1968.
So all discharge are explain and some can retain thier benefits, others have to forfeit thier benefits. So it is somewhat fallacious to say that every service member can get an ID. Scannable Fake ID
I see it got amended in the Senate, kicked back down to the house to vote on the amendment. Has to be two similar bills to reach the President. Hope it doesn stall in the House. The amendment seemed to rid of the “Honorable” criteria and just changed it by deleting that part of the bill to just.